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 Post subject: What is different during Lent?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:32 am 
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I'm hoping there might be some special services during Lent that my mother and I might attend. I am aware of the Stations of the Cross. Is there anything else? Do the masses change during Lent?

I'm thinking about fasting during Lent even though I'm not a Christian. I used to enjoy fasting (sometimes :) ). It helps a person be more focused and self-controlled.


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 Post subject: Re: What is different during Lent?
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The Glory to God in the Highest is not said or sung during Lent. If you go to a Mass where the Mass parts are sung, they'll probably switch up the tunes on you.

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And of course, no Alleluia.

A lot of parishes will also go for music with simpler arrangements.

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 Post subject: Re: What is different during Lent?
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I don't know how I forgot about the Alleluia.

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The Orthodox church used to have two extra weekday services for the first week or two of Lent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Lit ... fied_Gifts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathist

I'm not sure if our Orthodox church was following standard practices or not. It was very small and certain things were unique to our church. For example, we had the sermon at the end of the liturgy instead of in the middle.

The Akathist to the Theotokos liturgy was an interesting service. I am wondering if our Catholic church is likely to have any interesting services like that during Lent?

Another question: why do Orthodox start Lent on Monday and Catholics start Lent on Wednesday? When did this difference begin and why?

EDIT: Actually I just realized that I don't think Orthodox observe Ash Wednesday. I wonder why that would be? Is there a Catholic service for Ash Wednesday? Would non-Catholics be welcome?


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cloudyday wrote:
... Is there a Catholic service for Ash Wednesday? Would non-Catholics be welcome?

Yes and yes.

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and to underscore the above response, non-catholics may also receive ashes on ash wednesday..


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tAnGo wrote:
and to underscore the above response, non-catholics may also receive ashes on ash wednesday..


o.k., you guessed my next question. :) It is interesting that Ash Wednesday seems to have originated under Pope Gregory the Great around 600 BCE ( http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/news/2004/lent.html ), yet it apparently didn't spread into the Eastern areas. Apparently the Catholics and Orthodox were already going their separate ways at that early date even though the Great Schism would not come until 1054 BCE.

So I wonder if an agnostic like me should receive ashes? I might try to observe Lent, but I don't believe anymore.


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Maronites have "Ash Monday" but that was probably a Latinization of their rite.

Ash Wednesday is intimately connected to Palm Sunday (the ashes are made from palm leaves).

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Bagheera wrote:
Maronites have "Ash Monday" but that was probably a Latinization of their rite.

Ash Wednesday is intimately connected to Palm Sunday (the ashes are made from palm leaves).


"Ash Monday" - that's a good mix of East and West. :)

I suppose Confession is a big part of Lent also?

So there is Ash Wednesday, Stations of the Cross on Fridays(?), and Good Friday at the end?


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cloudyday wrote:
... So there is Ash Wednesday, Stations of the Cross on Fridays(?), and Good Friday at the end?


Holy Week - The Sacred Triduum
http://onlineministries.creighton.edu/C ... week2.html

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Linsou wrote:
cloudyday wrote:
... So there is Ash Wednesday, Stations of the Cross on Fridays(?), and Good Friday at the end?


Holy Week - The Sacred Triduum
http://onlineministries.creighton.edu/C ... week2.html


That makes sense. I think our Orthodox church had similar services. I remember the Easter Eve service with candles that kept dripping all over my shoes. :)


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kage_ar wrote:
Don't forget - soup suppers and FISH FRYS


What are those? That sounds kind of interesting. Also, last year I think I saw our Catholic church had an outdoor fair of some kind during Lent. Maybe that was what I saw?


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cloudyday wrote:
... I remember the Easter Eve service with candles that kept dripping all over my shoes. :)


Yes, the Easter Vigil candles are lit from the newly lit Paschal Candle - representing Christ, our Light.

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Don't forget - soup suppers and FISH FRYS


What are those? That sounds kind of interesting. Also, last year I think I saw our Catholic church had an outdoor fair of some kind during Lent. Maybe that was what I saw?


Yes - find a parish that has Friday Lenten Supper! :)

(not every parish does this - but every one I've heard that does welcomes everyone to eat - we generally have visitors to Stations and (meatless) Lenten Supper ...)

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My son stops can't stop grinning bout fish fry fridays.... :D

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Linsou wrote:
cloudyday wrote:
kage_ar wrote:
Don't forget - soup suppers and FISH FRYS


What are those? That sounds kind of interesting. Also, last year I think I saw our Catholic church had an outdoor fair of some kind during Lent. Maybe that was what I saw?


Yes - find a parish that has Friday Lenten Supper! :)

(not every parish does this - but every one I've heard that does welcomes everyone to eat - we generally have visitors to Stations and (meatless) Lenten Supper ...)


Yep, it is very common in this part of the woods for there to be a "soup/simple supper" in the Hall following Stations.

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