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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:07 am 
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Malleus Haereticorum wrote:
This list is not necessarily complete in that, at least as regards the salutations of letters, there are other, more formal titles. This list represents traditional American practice, which tended to be more subdue, with a few additions as options. Hence I am not listing salutations such my My Most Reverend and Eminent Lord Cardinal.

In the near future I will post a list of tradition curial and latin forms of address

a) direct speech to him.
b) correspondence, such as on an envelope
c)the salutation of a letter

Prioresses
a) Mother Prioress
b) The Very Rev. Mother Prioress
c) Very Reverend and Dear Mother Prioress


Clerics below the rank of priest, including deacons (note: under current canon law this would only be deacons, but formerly it included more grades)

a) no title
b) The Rev. Mr.
c) Reverend Sir


Sisters and Nuns

a) Sister
b) Venerable Sister
c) Venerable and Dear Sister

Papal Knights

a) Sir
b) The Honorable N., K.S.G (or K.H.S)
c) Honorable and Dear Sir


In the future I will put closing salutations, such as the famous "kissing the purple"


For modern usage, consider the following:

Prioress:

a) Rev. Mother
b) Rev. Mother First Name Last Name, Initials
c) Dear Rev. Mother

Deacon:

a) Deacon (FirstName or LastName)
b) Rev. Mr. FirstName Last Name
c) Deacon or Mister or FirstName

Knights:

a) Sir/Lady (Dame for all but USA)
b) Sir FirstName LastName, Initials or Mr./Dr./Br. Mrs./Miss/Dr./Sr. First Name, Last Name, Initials
c) Dear Sir/Lady(Dame) Firstname or simply Dear FirstName or LastName

Sisters
a) Sister/Rev. Sister
b) Sr. FirstName LastName, Initials or Rev. Sr. FirstName, LastName, Initials
b) Dear Sr. FirstName Lastname or Dear Sr. FirstName

Consecrated Virgins:

a) Rev. Miss/Dr. First Name Lastname, OCV or OV
b) Dear Rev. Miss/Dr. FirstName and LastName or LastName
c) Dear Miss/Dr.

Consecrated Members of Secular Institutes:

a) Father/Deacon/Bishop/Cardinal or Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr./
b) (for clergy, see appropriate), for others, Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr./ plus initials at end
c) Dear (for clergy, see appropriate), for others, Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr.

For superior of secular institute:

same plus any appropriate title just as one would with a job title
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(Mrs. in this case is obviously for a widow/divorcee since only unmarried can be consecrated in secular institutes).

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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:19 pm 
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Deacon, Bishop, etc are not words of address. And I would detest saying Reverend Sister or Reverend Miss. Modern use is anathema apparently.

And usage isn't a real word. It just sounds pretentious

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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:28 am 
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Ιασων wrote:
Deacon, Bishop, etc are not words of address. And I would detest saying Reverend Sister or Reverend Miss. Modern use is anathema apparently.

And usage isn't a real word. It just sounds pretentious


I am sorry you feel that way. St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, and many other great Saints used the title of "Reverend" when writing to nuns. Is that too modern? Is it anathema for the Holy See to refer to Sisters as "Rev. Sister A, XYZ) & not appropriate for some reason? Is it likewise inappropriate for consecrated virgins who are brides of Christ and sacred persons not to have their sacred status known by the title "Rev." even if "Rev." is applied to nuns and deacons and others?


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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:20 am 
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ThereseIvers, JCL wrote:
Malleus Haereticorum wrote:
This list is not necessarily complete in that, at least as regards the salutations of letters, there are other, more formal titles. This list represents traditional American practice, which tended to be more subdue, with a few additions as options. Hence I am not listing salutations such my My Most Reverend and Eminent Lord Cardinal.

In the near future I will post a list of tradition curial and latin forms of address

a) direct speech to him.
b) correspondence, such as on an envelope
c)the salutation of a letter

Prioresses
a) Mother Prioress
b) The Very Rev. Mother Prioress
c) Very Reverend and Dear Mother Prioress


Clerics below the rank of priest, including deacons (note: under current canon law this would only be deacons, but formerly it included more grades)

a) no title
b) The Rev. Mr.
c) Reverend Sir


Sisters and Nuns

a) Sister
b) Venerable Sister
c) Venerable and Dear Sister

Papal Knights

a) Sir
b) The Honorable N., K.S.G (or K.H.S)
c) Honorable and Dear Sir


In the future I will put closing salutations, such as the famous "kissing the purple"


For modern usage, consider the following:

Prioress:

a) Rev. Mother
b) Rev. Mother First Name Last Name, Initials
c) Dear Rev. Mother

Deacon:

a) Deacon (FirstName or LastName)
b) Rev. Mr. FirstName Last Name
c) Deacon or Mister or FirstName

Knights:

a) Sir/Lady (Dame for all but USA)
b) Sir FirstName LastName, Initials or Mr./Dr./Br. Mrs./Miss/Dr./Sr. First Name, Last Name, Initials
c) Dear Sir/Lady(Dame) Firstname or simply Dear FirstName or LastName

Sisters
a) Sister/Rev. Sister
b) Sr. FirstName LastName, Initials or Rev. Sr. FirstName, LastName, Initials
b) Dear Sr. FirstName Lastname or Dear Sr. FirstName

Consecrated Virgins:

a) Rev. Miss/Dr. First Name Lastname, OCV or OV
b) Dear Rev. Miss/Dr. FirstName and LastName or LastName
c) Dear Miss/Dr.

Consecrated Members of Secular Institutes:

a) Father/Deacon/Bishop/Cardinal or Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr./
b) (for clergy, see appropriate), for others, Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr./ plus initials at end
c) Dear (for clergy, see appropriate), for others, Mr./Mrs/Miss/Dr.

For superior of secular institute:

same plus any appropriate title just as one would with a job title
Mrs. Henry Zappolos, FKM
General Moderator

(Mrs. in this case is obviously for a widow/divorcee since only unmarried can be consecrated in secular institutes).


I appreciate your views! This is really awesome! Thanks for sharing!


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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:11 pm 
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matteo d'basio wrote:
As a practical matter, unless a person is writing a very formal letter, there is a lot more leeway than there once was. Words and terms like "your grace," "excellency," and "venerable" are not so common in the US as they are in England. I'd hate to think that someone would refrain from sending a priest a Christmas card because they couldn't figure out exactly how to address the envelope.

I recently wrote a letter to the bishop. The envelope was addressed pretty simply "Most Rev. xxxx D.D., Bishop of xisissi, etc. The letter began "Dear Bishop ............" Now, a quick reading sister who proofed it found that I had misspelled the bishop's name! THAT would never do.

That reminds me, is it ok to give a priest a Christmas card? Mail or hand delivery (after Mass ok?). What about gifts? I'd considered getting a little something for our priests but have no idea what is ok. I just assume they like gifts too.

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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:36 pm 
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I attended a reception for a Catholic church for the visiting Bishop of the diocese. He told us we did not have to say Your Excellency. However I and several other people who spoke to him used Your Excellency.


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 Post subject: Re: How to Address bishops, priests, religious, etc
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:42 am 
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In foreign languages, you can write more fanciful greetings like Most Excellent and Most Reverend Lord Bishop instead of Your Excellency.

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