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 Post subject: What exactly is a Saint anyway?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:00 pm 
Whats a saint? sides being a pious example of faith ect... In heaven does a saint any diffrent than a Joe Belivier? Is a Saint set aside? ANything elese?

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A saint is anyone who is in heaven.

A canonized saint is someone whom the Church recognizes as being in heaven.

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Whats a saint? sides being a pious example of faith ect...

A saint is someone who goes to heaven. Considering the alternative, why would anyone want to be anything but a saint?

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Jackie wrote:
A saint is anyone who is in heaven.

I don't know if that's entirely accurate.
A saint can be living.


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I don't know if that's entirely accurate.
A saint can be living.


really?


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Whats a saint? sides being a pious example of faith ect... In heaven does a saint any diffrent than a Joe Belivier? Is a Saint set aside? ANything elese?

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There are saints in heaven and saints still on Earth. Those in heaven are sometimes referred to as the Church Triumphant, and those still on Earth, as the Church Militant. Those in Purgatory are the Church Suffering. But all who are part of the Body of Christ are saints.

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like Mother Angelica says... "we are all called to be great saints... how we respond to that call is the critical part of the equation

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I would have to disagree with a Saint being anyone in Heaven. The Pious example and the Scriptures show that saints are people who have Faith in Christ and do His Will. However, the word saint is with a small "s" because it is a universal reference. A true Saint with a capital "S" is someone who is canonized. I go by this belief because Beatification claims that you are in Heaven and can intercess Prayers and Miracles however the title of Blessed or Venerable is given to your name not Saint. Padre Pio was most definately in Heaven the moment he died, but he was called Blessed Padre Pio when Beatified then Saint Padre Pio when Canonized. A Saint and a saint are two different things. For instance, do you believe that if I am an Atheist my whole life, commit horrid crimes and am on my way to Hell, then I see the light and convert, die with the Sacraments in the Faith, go to Purgatory for a while then go to Heaven and I should deserve the same reward and title of St. Padre Pio, or St. Catherine of Sienna, or St. Gertrude the Great. The truth is that Heaven has a hierarchy for all people. Just as the Angels are in groups of Nine different Choirs, the humans who go to Heaven are glorified souls and depending on your mission, role and faith is what determines your rank in the Hierarchy. Our Lady of Fatima promised the 3 children Heaven, but it took a while to Beatify Jacinta, and Francesco, and Sister Lucia hasn't even been Beatified. They are not called Saints, yet we know they are in Heaven. When you die, if you go to Heaven, you will be put within a Choir next to the Angels, and your glory of Sainthood is determined by Jesus. My goal would be to be in the Choir of Seraphim, part of the highest hierarchy of Archangels, a canonized Saint and the Magnus title of The Great next to my name. That would be the best spot you could get since Seraphim are the highest Choir, the Hierarchy of Archangels makes you like the seven who stand before the throne, a canonized Saint makes you a Intercessor, and the Magnus title of The Great shows your wonderful mission on earth. In conclusion a Saint is someone who is glorified to highest of Intercessors in Heaven in a special Hierarchy that only the Canonized can reach. In regard to a saint can still be living, that is a very dangerous statement. Why? Because you are proclaiming indirectly that a Saint in Heaven is dead and that is completely Anti-Scriptue, Anti-Tradition, Anti-Catholic and most of all Anti-God. A Saint in Heaven is more alive than someone on earth and you must be careful because remember, Protestants feed off of a statement like that because they think we venerate or pray to the dead. As for special places in Heaven reserved for certain people, I refer to Saint Maria Faustina in her diary where she said there is a Heaven in Heaven that only special souls can reach so this show that Saints and saints have different glory and roles on earth and in Heaven. So if you wanna be higher in Heaven, deny yourself and give yourself completely to Divine Providence. You may be someone who reaches the highest possible under the Blessed Virgin of course since she is Queen.


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 Post subject: Re: What exactly is a Saint anyway?
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How unique are Saints?
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yeahman wrote:
Jackie wrote:
A saint is anyone who is in heaven.

I don't know if that's entirely accurate.
A saint can be living.
Not in the sense mostly used. Yes, Scripture talks of 'saints' or 'the holy ones,' as those who are Christian (and therefore sanctified). But the word 'saint' has, at least in English, become a specific term for those who are in heaven (as has 'helgen' in Norwegian).

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 Post subject: Re: What exactly is a Saint anyway?
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So to say that a saint can be people who aren't in heaven is only true if you deliberately do not use the term in its now technical meaning. It is equivocation of two terms that are somewhat related.

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 Post subject: Re: What exactly is a Saint anyway?
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You're arguing with a 13-year old comment. :fyi:

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In which he will be a lot more successful than arguing with a 13 year old.

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 Post subject: Re: What exactly is a Saint anyway?
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You're arguing with a 13-year old comment. :fyi:
Oh, yeah. Petronius.

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