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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:41 pm 
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One of these days wrote:
I for one will never go to a Novus Ordo Mass; only a TML meets my criteria. Main reason is that I do not believe that the consecration of the Eucharist is achieved ( see video below to get a true understanding of the body and blood of Jesus in the Eucharist) best 8 minutes you can spend in learning about the true Mass....

Vatican II was officially voted on by 8 pp, six of who were of Protestant reform. Protestants do not believe in the consecration of the Eucharist......
generally ok (not a snarky comment).
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Dubious assertions are generally ok (not a snarky comment).

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 pm 
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They believe that if you dont live your traditional faith like you were taught or if you switch to another religion from traditional you will go to hell. They are not in union with the pope so they do not think he has any power. If we were to raise kids in his faith I wouldnt want to teach them that if they decide to do something else they will go to hell. Also in most sermons the priest mentions something about vatican 2 every time in a negative way. I wouldnt be so opposed to it if they didnt bad mouth us so much:/



WHERE do you go to Mass? I would just LOVE to go to your Church, after w hat u say here about the priest saying negative things about Vatican 2

He seems like a very rare person. God bless him and all who are like him.

You should listen to your boyfriend IMO. There are creepy t hings going on in the modern Church


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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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You should listen to your boyfriend IMO.

No. Her boyfriend appears to be a schismatic. She should not follow him into schism.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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Documents of the Second Vatican Council were approved by bishops and St. Pope Paul VI.

They still need to be implemented properly.

For example, the Council Fathers declared that abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:39 pm 
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Documents of the Second Vatican Council were approved by bishops and St. Pope Paul VI.

They still need to be implemented properly.

For example, the Council Fathers declared that abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.

who doesn't know that already without Vatican 2?

and frankly, i have heard that Paul VI belonged to a secret group.. one that is anticatholic. Admittedly, i can't prove that beyond a doubt but what I can "prove" is that there are many nefarious things going on in the Church

and my proof there is

well, if you have ever felt the presence of Satan (and company) you know of what I speak


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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:14 pm 
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and frankly, i have heard that Paul VI belonged to a secret group.. one that is anticatholic. Admittedly, i can't prove that beyond a doubt ....


If you can't prove that Paul VI belonged to a secret group, why bring it up as if it had some pertinence to this subject? You are just repeating and spreading rumors. :nooo:

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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Shhh, it's a secret!

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:06 pm 
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Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:23 pm 
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Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....


There can be only one.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....


There can be only one.


How do you know how many members are in the group?

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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Highlander wrote:
GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....


There can be only one.


How do you know how many members are in the group?


I have been informed that there can only be one.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm 
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GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....


There can be only one.


How do you know how many members are in the group?


I have been informed that there can only be one.


Informed by whom? Do they know the secret handshake?

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:43 pm 
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^^^

Not sure. It's just commonly asserted that There Can Be Only One.



Highlander wrote:
GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
Well, I am a member of a secret group and you can't prove I'm not. If I had any knowledge of any of the other members, I'd be able to establish my bona fides.

But, there is one.....


There can be only one.


How do you know how many members are in the group?


I have been informed that there can only be one.


Informed by whom? Do they know the secret handshake?

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:26 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:35 am 
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I have a feeling no one is getting it. I may have to become less subtle.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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Maybe. Duncan wasn't terribly subtle. Sometimes you have to make sure people really get the point. With that said, it's nothing to lose your head over. Don't lose the high ground here, my friend.

8-) :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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Well, I have a plan if it comes to that.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
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The Council was participated in by a large number of Bishops around the globe. Delegates from among the separated brethren were observers. A validly ordained priest saying the words of Consecration over bread and wine intending to do what the Church does achieves Consecration. There can be legitimate criticism of the contents of the Ordinary Form without relying on outlandish theories put forward by untrustworthy sources. As for me, the Mass I regularly attend is neither EF nor OF. Happy New Year.

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 Post subject: Re: Vatican 2 Catholic and Traditional Catholic Relationship
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:01 pm 
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lbt wrote:
They still need to be implemented properly.


If they can be implemented properly is a question in and of itself.

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