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 Post subject: Sunday Missal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:37 pm 
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Due to a mysterious disappearance, I no longer have my St Joseph Sunday Missal. So, I went to order a new one. I discovered that what appears to be the current St Joseph Sunday missal is outdated, expires today (the end of 2017), and has several versions available for sale have not addressed the language changes of 2011.

So -- can anybody direct me to a current Sunday Missal that will be good for several cycles into the future?

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:37 pm 
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https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Sunday-Mi ... day+missal

The current one started on Dec 3, first Sunday of Advent.
I didn't check the language - but I will as soon as dh gets it from the car - in the freezing cold garage.

Sorry. It will only be good for the current year cycle though. $1.97


Language looks to be correct -
"And with your spirit"
Nicene Creed is correct
Responses to Memorial Acclimation are correct

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:45 pm 
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'Expires' in what sense exactly? The liturgy isn't something that is under constant revision.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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The St Joseph paperback missal for 2018 begins with December 3, 2017, First Sunday of Advent,
and ends with Last Sunday in Ordinary Time, November 25, 2018.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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'Expires' in what sense exactly? The liturgy isn't something that is under constant revision.

Ummm hate to break it to you

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:02 pm 
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The one I had was for 2011 through 2017, I believe. It would rotate through several liturgical cycles. What I'm reading from Amazon reviews is that liturgical content of the St Joseph Sunday Missal remains valid, but that the reference pages which link each Sunday's calendar date to the readings expire with the end of 2017. Multiple reviews complained about it. I suspect that there is inventory that cannot be (easily) used after today, but that may be being dumped on the market.

So, I would be very happy with a St Josephs Missal if the calendar date references to the liturgical readings went beyond 2018.

We have two Catholic stores in town. One is family owned and is unimpressive when it comes to detailed knowledge of their product. The other is owned and run by one of our deacons. I will probably call the latter and hope they know what I'm talking about.

P.S. Further research indicates that there is a separately published Missal Guide for each calendar year. The guide provides the link between the calendar date and the liturgical readings. But I don't want to carry around two items. Perhaps it becomes to hard to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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Suddenly hit me that I need to go and check my weekday Missal. I hope that the same doesn't apply to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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Peregrinator wrote:
Doom wrote:
'Expires' in what sense exactly? The liturgy isn't something that is under constant revision.

Ummm hate to break it to you


No, I am correct, there hasn't been a revision of the liturgy since the new translation in 2011, and before that, there was no revision since 1970. The liturgy is pretty stable over time.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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I have a Saint Paul Sunday Missal. The liturgical calendar in front only goes through 2017. But under each set of pages for the individual Sundays, it tells you what years to use the readings all the way out through 2032.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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Doom wrote:
No, I am correct, there hasn't been a revision of the liturgy since the new translation in 2011, and before that, there was no revision since 1970. The liturgy is pretty stable over time.

Nope

1970 - English ordo completed
1972 - Provisional translation of Sunday and feast day prayers
1974 - Complete English translation of Sacramentary published
1975 - 2nd Edition of Roman Missal
1985 - 2nd Edition of English Sacramentary conforming to 1975 MR published
(2002 - 3rd Edition of English Sacramentary rejected)
2002 - 3rd Edition of Roman Missal
2003 - US Adaptations to GIRM approved by Holy See
2008 - Roman Missal revised
2008 - GIRM revised
2011 - New English translation

The longest stretch in there is 17 years, that is not even long enough for immemorial custom.

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 Post subject: Re: Sunday Missal
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I use the Midwest Theological Forum's missal when I attend the Ordinary Form. I also keep a calendar in my apartment at all times to tell me what liturgical day it is so I can adjust my missal according to that and then just go in order. So even though the years on it will run out at some point, I can keep using it as long as the current translation is valid.

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