Come Be My Light wrote:
What would be the point of Demons being UFOs? Like, what does that accomplish for them?
Xavier wrote:
Mick wrote:
UFOs are Unidentified Flying Objects and nothing more. Unidentified means unidentified regardless of any particular theory, guess or assumption; if anyone knew what they were they wouldn't be unidentified!
Demons? No. Demons are NOT physical objects but rather spiritual beings.
Is there life on other planets? According to scientists, probably. What form it takes has yet to be determined.
The "morning star" is usually a reference to Venus (occasionally Murcury), other references to 'stars' in the bible are not meant to be taken literally while stars falling from the sky (shooting stars) would have been more visible in ancient times because of the lack of light pollution. On occasion these can be seen in daylight because of their size when entering the earth's atmosphere. The use of shooting stars as a comparison with falling angels (demons) would be intended to make it easier to understand the spiritual meaning.
Well, thanks for answering my question. I'd like to get some other answers on point, too.
The assumption is plausible. If one removes all other logical explanation as explained above, it is possible that they are demons because the concept of aliens is IMO, implicitly is in opposition to Catholic doctrine and runs a risk of at most reducing God to the level of the deist or at worst cultivates atheism. This is also assuming that abduction cases which leave physical evidence behind cannot be explained either (like hallucinations, REM, etc.).
Let me explain, I don't claim to be a super expert but this is what I have been thinking about recently, someone else here of a high theological caliber can feel free to correct me.
If other rational physical created being exist then they too would have some sort of chance at salvation since God created them.
Either
1. A one time decision of good or evil like the angels
2. Some type of later atonement.
3. They never fell (into their own original sin) in the first place.
As for 1. I am not sure this flies as the created universe is, as far as I can tell, a condition that was setup in order for man to have many chances at salvation. My premise here is simply my musings and I would like someone who knows more to tell me if I am right. I deduce this from the fact that angels, who are purely spiritual, got a single chance to decide good and evil while man even after choosing evil has a chance of redemption. The only difference is that man is both body and spirit; therefore the created world enables man to turn to God without being instantly damned like a purely spiritual being.
Logically then aliens would have to have fallen like man.
That said, we get to point 2.
If aliens can be saved then God must take on their nature as well. Hence Christ would have to be Incarnate and assume their nature in order to save it.
First one can say to me “God can save people however he likes” okay, well I guess that's true. If an alien sins and therefore infinitely offends God then what is the method of their salvation? What is their method of redemption from that infinite offense?
We have serious issues with Dogma here (I think). One would have to say that Jesus assuming a human nature entails that all rational creatures in the universe are saved even though he did not assume their nature. OR one would have to redefine human nature as “rational nature” and I think we would still run into difficulty.
Number 3. is strange too because if they never fell then they would know God and have infused knowledge, so why are they quasi-secretly flying around and taking people against their will?
Further is the fact that “Adam and Eve brought death into the world.”
If aliens exist then did Adam and Eve bring death to their world through the fall? Or does this only apply to earth? Did they bring death to other rational creatures across the universe? Or are aliens therefore immortal?
Additionally if you study this stuff the UFO community appears to be into all sorts of theories about how aliens move human history, that ancient people saw UFOs and thought they were gods, or that aliens cause modern day apparitions of Mary etc. See where this is going?
Etc.. etc.. etc.. I'm probably wrong here but I just can't seem to reconcile it myself. If I'm right about anything here then there seems to be a problem with the concept of aliens and dogma.