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Author:  jupitermadcat [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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Hello everyone i'm glad to be here i hope to find some answers here.

here is my story.

I have been interested in the Catholic Church since 2007 I have been married to my wife since 2005 she is Jewish she was married before to a Jewish man before we were married, i'm Christian been baptized as an infant in the Lutheran Church i started RCIA Class back in 2007 i was told something about a annulment i left the RCIA Class and put everything on the backburner i would like to know what exactly does this involve is this a annulment through the church? i'm very confused about all of this i hope to find some answers besides (go talk to your priest) :)

Thanks and blessings :pray:

Author:  faithfulservant [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:29 pm ]
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go talk to your priest 8-) every situation is different and specific to the couple... it is actually better , should anyone address your situation, that it be one of our resident priests :fyi:

it is why this board rule exists

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Author:  Thinks2much [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:09 pm ]
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Guy up here is right.
Annulments are not all the same.
Basically, it is a declaration that you and your legal wife (ex?) were never really married under Church conditions and that requires an investigation of the parties involved and other things, so no one but someone specifically involved in annulments can tell you wether it is possible in your case to get one or wether you even need one. (but don't let this deter you) IT could be really simple.

Honestly, you should not let the issues annulment keep you from the RCIA. For all converts the first steps are the hardest....

Author:  Pro Ecclesia Dei [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:37 pm ]
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sunmumy wrote:
Guy up here is right.
Annulments are not all the same.
Basically, it is a declaration that you and your legal wife (ex?) were never really married under Church conditions and that requires an investigation of the parties involved and other things, so no one but someone specifically involved in annulments can tell you wether it is possible in your case to get one or wether you even need one. (but don't let this deter you) IT could be really simple.

That is a good point. People sometimes do not realize that besides the longer annulment process, there is a possibility of a "Church divorce" (in cases where the marriage is not sacrament, i.e. not between two baptised persons, or when the marriage was never consummated), and sometimes an annulment can be must simpler (as when the impediment to the marriage is a clear matter of fact, e.g. when a Catholic attempts marriage outside the Church).

What is possible in each case and the best course depends on the details and one should inquire with his priest and diocese about where his case fits in

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:39 pm ]
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We can offer support and prayers and encouragement, which we are happy to do.

Author:  Notnew [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:16 pm ]
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An Annulment sticky might be nice (or maybe there already is one) - one that lists the beginning practical steps ...

  • Meeting with the parish representative, usually priest or deacon, who will advise you.
  • If advised to proceed, next step is paperwork - gathering existing Certificate of Marriage(s) or previous divorce or annulment paperwork ...
  • Filling out paperwork - usually meeting with the parish representative again - then submitting paperwork.
  • Usually takes weeks to months, depending ...
  • Feel welcome and encouraged to attend Mass in the meantime ...

Things like that ...

Author:  Edward Pothier [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
Hello everyone i'm glad to be here i hope to find some answers here.

here is my story.

I have been interested in the Catholic Church since 2007 I have been married to my wife since 2005 she is Jewish she was married before to a Jewish man before we were married, i'm Christian been baptized as an infant in the Lutheran Church…
Wisely, the details of the nullity process is limited here.

But just to be clear, the question is about the marriage of your Jewish wife to a Jewish man before she married you, right?


Edward Pothier

Author:  jupitermadcat [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:00 pm ]
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Yes.

Author:  Desertfalcon [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:56 am ]
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:pray:

Author:  jupitermadcat [ Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:27 pm ]
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Praying..

Author:  kage_ar [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:07 pm ]
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Is your wife converting with you?

Author:  jupitermadcat [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:49 pm ]
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No just I

Author:  kage_ar [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:56 pm ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
No just I


:pray: :pray: :pray:

Author:  jupitermadcat [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:34 pm ]
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Correct me if i'm wrong but i get the impression that things are looking bleak

Author:  Notnew [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:50 pm ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but i get the impression that things are looking bleak

No, I don't think so. I think Kelly sent up some prayers for you that you get the information you need to get started.

L.

Author:  jupitermadcat [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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Thank you. :)

Author:  Notnew [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:18 pm ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
Thank you. :)

yw! :wink:

And ... more prayers.
:pray:

L.

Author:  kage_ar [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:31 am ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but i get the impression that things are looking bleak


No, it is time to speak to your pastor. Make that call on Monday to get an appointment.

Another option is to call the Diocese, ask to speak with the Office of the Tribunal and ask if they will assign you an advocate (this is a person who assists you with the process).

And pray.

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:54 am ]
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jupitermadcat wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but i get the impression that things are looking bleak

No. The impression you're getting is that no one here can give you an authoritative answer, and any answers we can give are more likely to be misleading and than helpful. So, as kage_ar said, you need to start asking the people who really might be able to give you an answer.

Author:  Pro Ecclesia Dei [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:14 am ]
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
jupitermadcat wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong but i get the impression that things are looking bleak

No. The impression you're getting is that no one here can give you an authoritative answer, and any answers we can give are more likely to be misleading and helpful. So, as kage_ar said, you need to start asking the people who really might be able to give you an answer.

Right. It is very much like asking a German asking an American about his legal situation in the US. Even if he happens to be a lawyer, he needs to avoid giving legal advice unless he really knows your case and is involved. I don't think that anyone active on the board currently is a canon lawyer anyway, which makes anything said the opinion of "amateurs" either based on their own experience, which would vary depending on the details of their case, or a hobbyist understanding of canon law.

I could, from the little I know, state an opinion that such and such could happen to regularize your situation, but if I am wrong I only serve to set you on the wrong path.

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