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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:09 pm 
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Where does the story of Veronica come from?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khp2EWgMZ8U


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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The name "Veronica" comes from the Latin Vera Icone. Vera Icone to English is true image of Jesus Christ.


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm not sure why your source gives it in that form. It's more often given as vera icon (no trailing -e), which is the way it would be used as a subject in a Latin sentence, which is the way Latin words and phrases are usually given.

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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St. Veronica went to Rome. She brought the cloth on which Christ left the imprint of his face. The cloth was long exposed to public veneration.


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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There are several variations of the story... http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15362a.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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There are several variations of the story... http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15362a.htm

Thank you for the link. Saint Veronica certainly has many legends written about her.


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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In many places she is identified with the Haemorrhissa who was cured in the Gospel.


:scratch: Who?

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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She went to Rome, bringing with her this image of Christ, which was long exposed to public veneration.


What church exposes it for veneration?

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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In many places she is identified with the Haemorrhissa who was cured in the Gospel.


:scratch: Who?

The woman with the flow of blood.

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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In many places she is identified with the Haemorrhissa who was cured in the Gospel.


:scratch: Who?

The woman with the flow of blood.


I never realized that she had a name. She's not mentioned in any translation that I've used. The name sounds like a variant of hemorrhage. Perhaps like Judith, or Veronica, it's not a real name, but a description.

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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Interesting idea. In at least one romance language, a description term can migrate into a label and, at times, into a name.

La llorona.

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I don't think it's a personal name in the context of the C/E article. I think it's a term for "great flow of blood."

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I never realized that she had a name. She's not mentioned in any translation that I've used. The name sounds like a variant of hemorrhage. Perhaps like Judith, or Veronica, it's not a real name, but a description.


It's not a name, it's a medical term that describes her condition. 'Hemo' means 'bleeding', e.g. 'hemophiliac' which technically means 'a lover of bleeding', but which actually means 'someone who can't stop bleeding'


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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Veronica wipes the face of Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE-M42SCZwI


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm curious... has there ever been a comparison of the veil of Veronica with the manoppello which lines up with the shroud of Turin?

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm curious... has there ever been a comparison of the veil of Veronica with the manoppello which lines up with the shroud of Turin?


I don't believe it was the manoppello that lines up. Pretty sure it was the SUDARIUM OF OVIEDO which was the small cloth that would have covered the face of Jesus in the tomb.

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/ ... turin.html

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm curious... has there ever been a comparison of the veil of Veronica with the manoppello which lines up with the shroud of Turin?


I don't believe it was the manoppello that lines up. Pretty sure it was the SUDARIUM OF OVIEDO which was the small cloth that would have covered the face of Jesus in the tomb.

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/ ... turin.html


My mistake. The manoppello is the veil of Veronica? Then my ? is does the manopello line up with the sudarium?

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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The manoppello is the veil of Veronica? Then my ? is does the manopello line up with the sudarium?


Honestly ana, I don't know ... I had never heard of the manopello before you brought it to me, here. A friend on another site is fascinated with the Shroud and i found the Sudarium when looking up info on the Shroud. I feel, if the picture (painting it seems) of the manopello is very precise for a simple rendering from pressing His bloody face on to the cloth. The Sudarium is more of a vague image, not even as defined as the Shroud, but, if you had a chance to read the article it lines up 60-70(?) times with the image of the face on the Shroud.

I'm sorry I am no better help than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm curious... has there ever been a comparison of the veil of Veronica with the manoppello which lines up with the shroud of Turin?


The comparison is at the center of the arguments in favor of the authenticity of the Shroud.


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 Post subject: Re: Saint Veronica
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I'm curious... has there ever been a comparison of the veil of Veronica with the manoppello which lines up with the shroud of Turin?


The comparison is at the center of the arguments in favor of the authenticity of the Shroud.



I did not know that. And I once, long ago, was quite up on things Sindological. At the center, you say?

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